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[personal profile] vae 2007-11-15 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
OW.

And I can't even say I disagree with most of it.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't either, alas. Well, I might not plunge to my death to escape it, but ....

*sigh* If Sony decides to do the other two albums in the deal, I really hope they'll either clean house on the production team or make them live albums. I can't imagine John wouldn't put more soul into the performance in front of an audience.
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[personal profile] vae 2007-11-15 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
It has been post-productioned to hell and back, really. Even in snatched sessions between filming and appearances and working on the book, I can't believe that John didn't put more emotion into those recordings.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know, it feels a lot like his Reflections from Broadway album to me. I'm just not sure that John's a studio artist.

[identity profile] fandom-me.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
That's almost exactly my response.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I know. I wish I could disagree, but .... *sighs and hopes for a live album next time*

[identity profile] fandom-me.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't dislike it, honestly. I have it. It's mixed in with my other forty-something John songs. And I really, really. It's not bad. It's just. John's got a whole lot of heart and soul that aren't in this and more than annoying me, i think it makes me sad.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, my mix of John songs ia almost all live recordings. I have to say, none of his studio stuff is all that good. Swings Cole Porter is okay, but compared to the songs from live performances? No comparison.

[identity profile] fandom-me.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
That's very, very, true. Hell, even his Dancing performance of Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic is better than the recorded one.

And I don't usually LIKE live.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
As was his lottery performance of You're So Vain. Yeah, I'm usually not a live fan either, but it seems to be only time John sparks, when he's got people to play to.

[identity profile] fandom-me.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Dammit, I missed the lottery preformance. But yeah. I think he needs the energy or something. Which is supposition, but reasonable seeming.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, we can't have that. Here, have John.

[identity profile] fandom-me.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I JUST FOUND IT AND HOMG that wink and grin.

[identity profile] fandom-me.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll be outside cooling off.

...I don't normally respond like that to much of anything, but WOW.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
How do you think I feel? I'm gay and I respond to him!

[identity profile] fandom-me.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
REALLY CONFUSED? HE's just. It's gotta be the charisma. Also what I'm missing in the album.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
*flails* Damn the confusing charismatic boy.

[identity profile] dameruth.livejournal.com 2007-11-16 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Well, *he's* gay, too. That makes it really interesting . . . XD (Not that I should talk, since I also find him teh hawt, utterly hopeless as that is.)

RE: live vs. studio, I've known several musicians, and they all affirm that they're *very* different types of performances. Some folks are good at one, some at another. I know one of my fave regional bands, the Clumsy Lovers are vastly better live (though their new "Smart Kid" album finally starts to approach the quality of their live work).

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2007-11-16 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Does him being gay really matter?

[identity profile] dameruth.livejournal.com 2007-11-16 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Naaah, not for squeeage. I just get friends teasing me sometimes for being such a fan, commenting on the hotness levels, etc. ("You know he's gay, right?") Well, duh. He's also *married* (or at least civil-partnered), which is equally noteworthy.

I mean, it's not like anyone ever thinks about *seriously* hooking up with the object of celebrity squeeage. Well, not anyone remotely sane, anyway. (Why am I suddenly thinking about that creepy Brent Spiner stalker lady from "Trekkies"? o_O)

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2007-11-16 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, very much so.

[identity profile] miriam-heddy.livejournal.com 2007-11-16 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry to butt in here, but I was just watching that performance you linked, and I realized that yeah, it matters, in that the way that I hear the songs changes. When he's singing and is alone, I imagine him singing to and about a man.

And also, it makes some songs change. Like his performance of "Anything You Can Do" with Ruthie Henshall, which he performs such that the song deconstructs masculinity as much as femininity...

Anyway--gah--nobody should be that pretty. He's just... Superman.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2007-11-19 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, no, I get that. And agree. But we were talking about people teasing her for being attracted to a gay man, and I was wondering why his being gay mattered since it's not like celebrity crushes are ever expected to come to anything.