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taffimai ([personal profile] taffimai) wrote2009-03-19 12:13 am

OMG.

I just saw a commercial for a company that delivers cookie bouquets. In the commercial, the narrator chirped, "Perfect for Easter, Passover, or any occasion!"

Yes, you read that right. Cookie bouquets for Passover. Goyim are brilliant sometimes.

[identity profile] baffledking.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 11:13 am (UTC)(link)
...*facepalm*

[identity profile] miriam-heddy.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 11:24 am (UTC)(link)
I'm imagining a very fragile Matzo bouquet right now.

[identity profile] justhuman.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's still second place to [livejournal.com profile] herselfnyc's photo from the local high end market that advertised a ham for Passover, but oy!

[identity profile] rustydog.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 12:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe they're shortbread cookies? Those don't have to have any leavening. Or are sweets entirely off the table? A cookie bouquet seems... beside the point for a solemn religious holiday, in any case.

[identity profile] gnomi.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Oy.

[identity profile] wesleysgirl.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought it was also no grains containing gluten, which would include the most common one, wheat. I find it hard to believe a company delivering cookie bouquets would make almond-meal cookies (although I guess you never know, maybe the owner of the company is Jewish and they DO make non-gluten cookies?).

Like [livejournal.com profile] justhuman, this post immediately brought to my mind the ham advertised for Passover. Goodness.

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Even things containing no rising agents have to be prepared special for passover to get the 'kosher for passover' seal- they can't be made on the same pans that were used for regular cookies, for example.

I assume the cookies are kosher, just not kosher for passover and someone in the ad department didn't know the difference.
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[personal profile] hllangel 2009-03-19 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
That one's a classic.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee. Which begs the question of, "why would such a thing qualify as a gift?"

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Totally agree!

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, Passover isn't all that solemn, but yeah. Here's what it comes down to: all Kosher for Passover cookies I've ever eaten taste like EVIL. I do not think that a bouquet of such things would make a good gift.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Regardless of the ingredients of the cookies, they'd have to be made in a Kosher for Passover facility, which means that all the equipment has to be Kosher for Passover and there can't be anything leavened anywhere in the facility. Given that it's a cookie factory, I really doubt it's Kosher for Passover.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
You're giving them more credit than I did.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah.

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I just had coffee, I can be magnanimous.

I also don't want to think about it being Passover already. *sighs*

[identity profile] wesleysgirl.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, it seems pretty unlikely that the whole facility is Kosher for Passover, and if it was you'd think they'd be advertising THAT fact more than anything else.

[identity profile] rustydog.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, that makes sense. Wow, not a good idea in so many ways!

I also didn't know until I just went looking now about the prohibition against grains associated with fermentation. Everything I can find about how matzo is made just says "white flour and water" so I can't figure out what kind of agricultural product is used for the flour, if wheat and a lot of other grains can't be used.

[identity profile] rustydog.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
That makes sense, too. "Here's a bouquet of evil cookies! Hope you don't choke on them!"

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Matzoh is made with wheat flour, true... not sure how that works (I think it has to do with the preparation? There is some sort of rule regarding how long the wheat and flour can be mixed together and how long it may bake), but in general any thing made for Chometz- wheat, spelt, barley, oats, and rye or legumes (depending on if you are Ashkenazi (European) or Sephardic (Mideastern) descent.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe the company is a Wolfram and Hart subsidiary?

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the amount of time it's mixed -- basically, it can't be allowed to rise.

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
If I remember correctly, 18 minutes for mixed to done being cooked? Something like that.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep! We like our chai, don't we?

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. life is good.

[identity profile] rustydog.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha, I wouldn't put it past them.

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
They go great with ham and cheese.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmmhmmm.

[identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I debated whether I should click this or not, but I just wanted to mention that Ashkenazi doesn't mean European and Sephardic doesn't mean Middle Eastern. I don't mean to be rude, it just bothered me.

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2009-03-20 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
No, but it is the easiest way of explaining the difference to someone who has no idea there are differences within the Jewish faith. I should have said Mediterranean, not mid-eastern though.

[identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com 2009-03-20 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I see where you're coming from, totally. It's just, you know, a thorny subject.
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[personal profile] minim_calibre 2009-03-20 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I confess a fondness for those macaroons. Which would make a great bouquet.

[identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com 2009-03-20 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
True, though possibly not one requiring professional arrangement.
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[identity profile] msp-hacker.livejournal.com 2009-03-23 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
This makes me feel so much better about the fruit table display that I saw advertised recently.